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i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the phone, and he said what would it take? and i said a serious discussion about entitlements, further cuts, and i'll only be your last vote because there had only been two -- in the house as you know, a tie vote goes down. >> sure. >> so i said i'd only be your 218th vote and there had been two votes i knew like this in history. one for the impeachment of andrew johnson and the other one for the draft. >> so -- >> and i said -- and they needed me. but i represented the most -- >> the president needed you, correct? >> correct. >> and the president right now needs dem
i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the...
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public option deficit reduction plan and basically what it did is that allowed people to buy a public option insurance as well as health insurance i think it's a great idea i love jan schakowsky she's great frank in chicago last call what's up frank. you know our support of israel i'm absolutely there but doesn't anybody wake up and see that they're treating the problem. like they're not peace treated i mean maybe in that i don't i think that's what. your argument thanks for the call your argument starts to break down when you get into that kind of hyperbole but the fact of the matter is that in israel there is a very loud very public debate about israeli policy with regards to the west bank and the palestinians and gaza and we just generally don't have that debate here in the united states and i think it's unfortunate i think that it's it's not good for israel that we don't have to pay for your take my take a live thank you for all of your calls i didn't get your calls and i was called back next week. is the good the bad and the very very bad no genesis showily ugly the good stephani
public option deficit reduction plan and basically what it did is that allowed people to buy a public option insurance as well as health insurance i think it's a great idea i love jan schakowsky she's great frank in chicago last call what's up frank. you know our support of israel i'm absolutely there but doesn't anybody wake up and see that they're treating the problem. like they're not peace treated i mean maybe in that i don't i think that's what. your argument thanks for the call your...
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that's over $2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. doesn't get us all the way there, but it does get us largely about two-thirds of the way there to debt stabilization, at least within a ten-year budget window. >> russ, what do you think? of course, we are approaching this with caution. we know that there's going to be more back and forth. in the middle of it all, we have earnings season. you know, already some people are saying that this anticipation of all of these cliffs, cliff after cliff, has already impacted the earnings period. what are you looking at? what are you seeing from the fourth quarter reporting season so far? it's been a big week obviously this week for financials. >> we're seeing decent performance. i think compliments to corporate america. they've been able to grind out strong earnings growth with a relatively weak recovery. margins remain much higher than people thought. this has helped. we're seeing a recovery in the rest of the world. that's also helped. i think it's going to be a decent year. i don't think the
that's over $2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. doesn't get us all the way there, but it does get us largely about two-thirds of the way there to debt stabilization, at least within a ten-year budget window. >> russ, what do you think? of course, we are approaching this with caution. we know that there's going to be more back and forth. in the middle of it all, we have earnings season. you know, already some people are saying that this anticipation of all of these cliffs,...
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which only will reyour trillion dollar deficit spending each year 5%, folks. so they gave them that. what does he come back with? we want more. i want more tax hikes which aren't going to do anything to calm the debt and the spending. he is not willing, and so i think back to what joe said. i think marco said this too. small business owners and large corporations can't trust the president. that's why they're sitting on top of all this cash and not hiring. that doesn't bode well. neil: marco, quickly you see nothing to dissuade you or some of your colleagues from getting off that? >> businesses are still growing, neil but they're not growing as much as they otherwise would. and that uncertainty has a very real trickle down effect. i'll use us as an example. we're building a new gio pronto restaurant right now. i would have loved to borrow the total investment from people like joe and gold coast banking. no way i'm going to do that based on uncertainty. i go borrow less than i would otherwise need. i do things like buy refurbished equipment than new. that doesn'
which only will reyour trillion dollar deficit spending each year 5%, folks. so they gave them that. what does he come back with? we want more. i want more tax hikes which aren't going to do anything to calm the debt and the spending. he is not willing, and so i think back to what joe said. i think marco said this too. small business owners and large corporations can't trust the president. that's why they're sitting on top of all this cash and not hiring. that doesn't bode well. neil: marco,...
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interesting time in our history, after 9/11 post hurricane, dealing with infrastructure challenges and budget deficits and we need to expand our tax base and we need to take advantage of what's happening right now. >> reporter: exactly how we take advantage is ripe for debate. but, most agree better education and visas for the scientists we train in the u.s. is a good start. and, remember what i.b.m.'s myerson said about continuity: it's just as important to a country, as it is to a company. >> the moment you believe there is no danger of losing your edge is when it disappears on you. >> reporter: suzanne pratt, "n.b.r.," at the watson research center. >> susie: be sure to join us on monday for our special edition on american innovation. that's it for us this friday evening. have a great weekend everyone. you, too, tom. >> tom: goodnight, susie. we'll see you online at nbr.com and back here monday night. captioning sponsored by wpbt captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >>> comprehensive immigration reform and gun control take front and center on the political stage. with preparation
interesting time in our history, after 9/11 post hurricane, dealing with infrastructure challenges and budget deficits and we need to expand our tax base and we need to take advantage of what's happening right now. >> reporter: exactly how we take advantage is ripe for debate. but, most agree better education and visas for the scientists we train in the u.s. is a good start. and, remember what i.b.m.'s myerson said about continuity: it's just as important to a country, as it is to a...
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interesting time in our history after 9/11 post hurricane, dealing with infrastructure challenges and budget deficits and we need to expand our tax base and we need to take advantage of what's happening right now. >> reporter: exactly how we take advantage is ripe for debate. but, most agree better education and visas for the scientists we train in the u.s. is a good start. and, remember what i.b.m.'s myerson said about continuity: it's just as important to a country, as it is to a company. >> the moment you believe there is no danger of losing your edge is when it disappears on you. >> reporter: suzanne pratt "n.b.r.," at the watson research center. >> susie: be sure to join us on monday for our special edition on american innovation. that's it for us this friday evening. have a great weekend everyone. you, too, tom. >> tom: goodnight, susie. we'll see you online at nbr.com and back here monday night. captioning sponsored by wpbt captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
interesting time in our history after 9/11 post hurricane, dealing with infrastructure challenges and budget deficits and we need to expand our tax base and we need to take advantage of what's happening right now. >> reporter: exactly how we take advantage is ripe for debate. but, most agree better education and visas for the scientists we train in the u.s. is a good start. and, remember what i.b.m.'s myerson said about continuity: it's just as important to a country, as it is to a...
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it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military health care costs for years. >> sharply rising health care costs are consuming an ever-larger share of this department. growing from 19 billion in 2001. >> military health care costs have gone up 300% in the past decade. 2012 was the first year since 1995 military personnel saw an increase in health care premiums. now, there are two things republicans love, the military and reducing the deficit. republican should be thrilled with the public option. how can you make a hundred billion dollar mistake? who's doing the math? will it save or won'
it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military health care costs...
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, the average person thinks that we suddenly had a revenue shortfall and that's why we're running a deficit. they have no idea that we've got tons of revenue but that spending is at a ridiculous level now. 25% of gdp. it needs to get down to 17% of gdp. nobody has explained this to the public properly or convincingly. >> aunder your favorite presidet the debt has gone from roughly 10 trillion to 16 trillion. we just had the treasury numbers out yesterday. in fact, in the last year it went up again 1.3 trillion. now, this leaves an opening for the republicans. but i don't think they're smart enough to take it. and i agree with costa. actually, the president, who is a very clever political guy, they're letting him get off because he doesn't want to cut 13e7bding. mark is right. except smash the defense department. the rest of it, the entitlements, the discretionary, the little entitlements, he doesn't want to touch them. >> i don't know. was there a question in there? >> i think somewhere. somewhere there's a question. >> i don't know what to say. i guess spending is not what the democrats ru
, the average person thinks that we suddenly had a revenue shortfall and that's why we're running a deficit. they have no idea that we've got tons of revenue but that spending is at a ridiculous level now. 25% of gdp. it needs to get down to 17% of gdp. nobody has explained this to the public properly or convincingly. >> aunder your favorite presidet the debt has gone from roughly 10 trillion to 16 trillion. we just had the treasury numbers out yesterday. in fact, in the last year it went...
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melissa: we're adding trillions every year to our deficit. what do you think, stephen, does that get us there? >> 1.2 trillion is this year's deficit. that doesn't solve the long-term problem. the thing we haven't had from this president in my view is serious proposal for structural entitlement reform on the order of something like the ryan budget that republicans offered. took a lot of grief for. something that would change the trajectory of our debt. things we've had from this president wouldn't do that. they might take a chunk here, take a chunk there but they don't change the overall debt picture and certainly don't change the trajectory. melissa: stephen, susan, stick around. we have a lot more on the other side of this break. like ben bernanke saying time to ditch the debt ceiling all together. is it as silly as he says it is? we'll debate that. more "money" ahead what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money
melissa: we're adding trillions every year to our deficit. what do you think, stephen, does that get us there? >> 1.2 trillion is this year's deficit. that doesn't solve the long-term problem. the thing we haven't had from this president in my view is serious proposal for structural entitlement reform on the order of something like the ryan budget that republicans offered. took a lot of grief for. something that would change the trajectory of our debt. things we've had from this president...
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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that your paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me. and because they have the spending power. and so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. >> many republicans are willing to just let it all burn to the ground. politico reported more and morehouse republicans are planning to damage the economy. gop officials said more than half of their members are prepared to allow default unless president obama agrees to dramatic cuts. he has repeatedly sai
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such...
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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult, if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if there's some things like paying our bills should not be out of bounds. i'll take one last question. >> mr. president, i would like to ask you, now that you've reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms. one that's long-standing, another more recent. the long-standing one seems to become a truism of sorts, that you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. and the
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been...
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fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first. then i want to ask a question. >> as climate change threatens the world we leave to our children and good u.s. jobs move overseas, time in the senate ticks by. it keeps ticking by with no results. because the system is broken. but we can fix it. and make the senate work for us again. >> people are stunned when they find out it was not majority vote. that one senator can just stop the process. is it your hope and the hope of cwa that when you do ads like this that the public will put pressure on their senators to reform this and just make it fai
fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first....
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fitch a riley, fundamental credit strengths are eroded by large studily declining structure budget deficit, and high and rising public debt. what fitch is not saying, but almost screaming is, the washington sons of fitches are doing not about it, they screamed it. after the cliff, get ready for the crash. i'm not surprised we could still be cut. i'm surprised that fitch has not already done so, john campbell said that triple a rated countries do not we behave this way. i'm surprised it has not already happened. what do you think? >> i know, i just, you know there isal this talk if we get into a big fight over trying to reduce entitlements and making a long-term solution to this, that fitch or some rating agencies may cut our credit rating at this point. if that is what they are doing, they have it backwards. what they should do is they should look at reducing our credit rating, if we don't -- if we don't make some significant change in long temp problem, otherwise we'll surpass italy, and greece and spain and japan. that is what hey should be talking about. not just about this fight we're
fitch a riley, fundamental credit strengths are eroded by large studily declining structure budget deficit, and high and rising public debt. what fitch is not saying, but almost screaming is, the washington sons of fitches are doing not about it, they screamed it. after the cliff, get ready for the crash. i'm not surprised we could still be cut. i'm surprised that fitch has not already done so, john campbell said that triple a rated countries do not we behave this way. i'm surprised it has not...
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if they're so into cutting the deficit and they think spend issing the problem, show it off. let's see what you got. they don't want to do it. >> what i don't understand about this is why if you believe that ultimately they're going to have to cave, why don't we just let them cave? why do we need to create all of these other sort of -- as i said wack-a-do arrangements so this can happen? >> it's all leverage, right? if the sequester, that deal is not great for the republicans or that battle is not great for them because that disproportionately hurts republican industries, which is to say the defense industry, which is not to say that there aren't plenty of democrats whose bread is not being buttered by defense contractors, but if you look down at the breakdown of sequester cuts, defense gets hit with $55 billion in cuts, but they are much more severe, and as dave wood from the huffington post has said, it's like taking a meat clever to the defense industry. the nondefense cuts, 55 billion, same amount, but social security, retirement, veterans medicaid, snap, food stamps and
if they're so into cutting the deficit and they think spend issing the problem, show it off. let's see what you got. they don't want to do it. >> what i don't understand about this is why if you believe that ultimately they're going to have to cave, why don't we just let them cave? why do we need to create all of these other sort of -- as i said wack-a-do arrangements so this can happen? >> it's all leverage, right? if the sequester, that deal is not great for the republicans or...
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for decades this state has been running high deficits, spending, spending and spending, overborrowing and running the government programs. so you have a bunch of bad numbers. the sad part is a retired politicians look at the numbers in a lawyer they think the solution is more taxes, more spending and more government. we are trapped in a virtual circle. stuart: what is the direct link between a very active government that spends big and goes biggin to debt? show me the direct connection between that the high poverty level. >> best way to look at this is see what is happening with people leaving a little. lenore loses one person every ten minutes to other states. people are leaving companies don't want to come, they're scared of coming to illinois, much death and you can't blame them for being scared. they don't want to pay more taxes or interested that has more poor people. they want to move states that are dynamic, cutting taxes. look of other states with zero tax rates, they want to move to dynamic economies. stuart: diana workers leave and dynamic companies that want to hire do not
for decades this state has been running high deficits, spending, spending and spending, overborrowing and running the government programs. so you have a bunch of bad numbers. the sad part is a retired politicians look at the numbers in a lawyer they think the solution is more taxes, more spending and more government. we are trapped in a virtual circle. stuart: what is the direct link between a very active government that spends big and goes biggin to debt? show me the direct connection between...
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that's $1.3 trillion deficit. you know, if the republicans want to save their house majority, they'd better cut spending like there's no tomorrow. we'll have a little debate on our budget priorities next up. almost tastes like one of jack's cereals. fiber one. uh, forgot jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's for breakfast? um... try the number one! yeah, this is pretty good. [ male announcer ] over a third of aer. fiber one. >>> welcome back. >>> welcome back. house budget committee chairman paul ryan announced today that republicans are putting a short-term debt ceiling hike on the table. short-term debt ceiling hike. but here's what i'm not hearing and what we should be hearing is an unambiguous plan to splash spending now. republicans need an absolute rock solid plan to implement the sequester which is $1.2 trillion over the next ten years. this is essential. not just to unite the republican conference. but more importantly, it's essential to helping the economy grow more rapidly. and if the republicans don't get it d
that's $1.3 trillion deficit. you know, if the republicans want to save their house majority, they'd better cut spending like there's no tomorrow. we'll have a little debate on our budget priorities next up. almost tastes like one of jack's cereals. fiber one. uh, forgot jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's for breakfast? um... try the number one! yeah, this is pretty good. [ male announcer ] over a third of aer. fiber one. >>> welcome back. >>> welcome back. house budget committee...
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he doesn't care about deficits. he's not going to deal on this. >> you know, a couple of times during the news conference, i was interested in this. president obama said to congress, go ahead, give me the power and i'll issue more debt. that's really what he wants. he wants the power to issue unlimited debt so he can have unlimited spending and eventually he's going to get around to unlimited tax hikes. >> well, to be clear, as you know, when we talk about the debt, the president doesn't get to decide, you know, how much we're spending that's something that rests with congress. but in terms of what kate was saying with respect to, you know, him wanting to not really offer any cuts he's incurred the wrath of his party by offering chain cpi to social security. that's a reindexing of the cost of living index, revising down how much elderly people are getting. and he talk about potential fixes to medicare, potentially raising the age. it is not true that he's not willing to do that. i'll say there are a lot of people on
he doesn't care about deficits. he's not going to deal on this. >> you know, a couple of times during the news conference, i was interested in this. president obama said to congress, go ahead, give me the power and i'll issue more debt. that's really what he wants. he wants the power to issue unlimited debt so he can have unlimited spending and eventually he's going to get around to unlimited tax hikes. >> well, to be clear, as you know, when we talk about the debt, the president...
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pressing problems or americans in this country, you know, chief among them the economy, the budget deficit for crying out loud. a dysfunctional government. in have to go to -- 4%. what in the world is going on in that town? >> not the first time there were talking about things that the rest of the country does not care about as much. interesting. this poll comes out with 71 percent of americans believing these new laws are unlikely to actually prevent future mass shootings, and then there was a washington post-abc poll earlier this week that found 55 percent of americans believe that the most effective way or one of the most effective ways to stop these things is to have armed guards and schools. much more in line with what the nra was proposing. people are skeptical of new laws, and i think they're right to be. if there are going to be new measures undertaken, they want to do things that are not what the white house is proposing right now. lou: there is a dishonesty in this initiative that i find appalling. this president reacted skeptically to the proposal by the nra to put armed guards
pressing problems or americans in this country, you know, chief among them the economy, the budget deficit for crying out loud. a dysfunctional government. in have to go to -- 4%. what in the world is going on in that town? >> not the first time there were talking about things that the rest of the country does not care about as much. interesting. this poll comes out with 71 percent of americans believing these new laws are unlikely to actually prevent future mass shootings, and then there...
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>> let me just say that the president has already sign into law about $2.4 trillion worth of deficit reduction and three-quarters of that -- >> wars we stopped fighting, already factored in. >> a bunch of that is for spending cuts. not necessarily spending cults i really -- cuts i like but spending cuts nonetheless. >> you disagree with him when he says we don't have a spending problem? >> no. i think we do have certain things we can cut in spending, but in fact right now, i think the crisis we have right now is a jobs crisis. i think it's an income inequality crisis in our country. i think there's an investment crisis. we don't talk enough, neil, about the third leg of debt reduction, which is not only spending, not only raising revenue, but growth in the economy. and you know? this debt ceiling issue is just crazy. i stand -- >> was it crazy seven years ago when your democratic colleague voted against raising it? was it crazy then? >> well, except it wasn't real and this is real. the last final -- >> real is in the eye of the beholder. >> no, no. >> i guess it's -- >> it was more -
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so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he has a plan that mr. bolster the republicans hand when it comes to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt
so, obama's entire premise that we need a balanced approach to cutting the deficit is based on a huge fiction which is that obama's plan will cut 4 trillion during the the next decade. it will do no such thing. he's basing on a falsity, just like day one when he's been in office, distort and pr propgandize. now, republicans need to understand all of this dealing with obama. they're dealing with a man who is reckless, ruthless as any president they will ever encounter and my next guest says he...
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governor brown in the state of the states last week said, look, we're finished with the deficit. we're okay. we're in the black, actually. that's what he said. >> well, yes, if you look at the actual numbers behind that, part of eliminating that budget deficit meant pushing off payments towards bond obligation. they took a couple billion off the back end there, and what's interesting, it's easy to claim there's a budget surplus with $6 billion more of the taxpayers money thanks to prop 30, but hidden in the funding means that the governor's now going to back fill pension payments and salaries to stateupon work ores, and that was not part of the promise. >> that's interesting. this prop 30 raised taxes that was in the november election, and it was back dated to january. they are going to bring in an extra $6 million, and mark, you say some of the extra revenue goes towards paying state worker pensions opposed to reinvigorated the health service or the education system; right? >> yes. it also goes towards eliminating a few of the furlough fridays that schwarzenegger posted trying t
governor brown in the state of the states last week said, look, we're finished with the deficit. we're okay. we're in the black, actually. that's what he said. >> well, yes, if you look at the actual numbers behind that, part of eliminating that budget deficit meant pushing off payments towards bond obligation. they took a couple billion off the back end there, and what's interesting, it's easy to claim there's a budget surplus with $6 billion more of the taxpayers money thanks to prop...
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he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that is not what polling shows. it shows people want to get spending under control. >> sean: for a brief hour the obama media which did not go do a good job from my estimation woke up and challenged him. and looked angry on hypocrisy. how would you deal with the president that is very good at politics, demonizing and pushing republicans into a corner? what is the best strategy? >> well, i agree with you it's interesting. you had reporters saying wait a minute. you said just the opposite but also said the point just made a second ago which is why are you saying it's been straight a
he's said it's unrealistic to tie the debt limit to deficit reduction. he said it has been separate. that is just not accurate. >> sean: last 30 years? >> last 27 years every major reduction is start going through 1990s all three agreements. recent one, budget control act the reason we're talking about the debt limit discussion. so this is an appropriate time to raise the issue. look, he said people voted for him because they wanted to increase the debt limit. i don't think so. that...
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in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are going to tell us that we will be downgraded. you have to have a discussion in the broader context. this is why the things are different when you talk about $17 billion in this particular mulvaney amendment. it is not a ton of number. in the context of $1.2 trillion debt. but you to have the discussions about the $17 billion. it's not out of line to suggest that a 1.6%be off-set is reasonable. >> bret: i will say one thing aboutbe the debt ceiling debate quickly. president obama yesterday and then jay carney back in 2011 two different takes but the same message. >> congressional republicans refuse to pay a
in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are...
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it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. >> the metaphors, jim, whether it's a family not paying the credit card bills, the president saying it's like dining and dashing at a restaurant, the only thing is we've got two weeks of respite and then we're off to the races again. >> after the civil war, there was tremendous partisanship in this country. a tumultuous time. the level of bipartisanship. there's such hatred that you can't get in a room. it never seems like obama gets in the room. biden got in the room beforehand. but look, everybody hates each other down there. it's exactly the opposite of what you would expect from a respected nation. it makes us look mickey mouse. i don't blame fitch. look, we have to pay bills, the constitution says it, but everybody doesn't seem to care much about the
it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. >> the metaphors, jim, whether it's a family not paying the credit card bills, the president saying it's like dining and dashing at a restaurant, the only thing is we've got two weeks of respite...
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the budget hasn't been balanced in multiyears and the deficit is over a trillion dollars . every man, woman and child. i had my fifth grandchild and that baby was born with $50,000 worth of debt if we were to pay it off today. every man and woman and child has that worth of debt. that is uncon69able and we have to stop kicking the can down the road and we have to solve the problem and do whatever it takes to get us back on the fiscal path again. >> i want to talk about it now you come back and see a different thing. what is the biggest difference you are seeing coming back the second time? >> we passed a lot more rules on ourselves. we reduced our budget and exact opposite is happening to our government. it is gone crazy with regulation and restriction, but the part that is most alarmming is the amount of money that we are print one day will explode. we can't continue to print money. we have fancy names for it. it is quantitative easing and it is really printing money. wrim bay way has a trillion dollar note and you buy a loaf of bread everybody is happily singing . we will
the budget hasn't been balanced in multiyears and the deficit is over a trillion dollars . every man, woman and child. i had my fifth grandchild and that baby was born with $50,000 worth of debt if we were to pay it off today. every man and woman and child has that worth of debt. that is uncon69able and we have to stop kicking the can down the road and we have to solve the problem and do whatever it takes to get us back on the fiscal path again. >> i want to talk about it now you come...
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deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican party. but if i did, i would say stay away from shutting the government down. stay away from letting the debt ceiling not be raised because those are things that the american people will hate. they'll hate us defaulting onli blame you for it. they'll hate us shutting the government down. if you want to make a stand, make it in the sequester. the sequester has a lot of things that are painful to the democrats and the president. that's the place to plak the stand. and, look, everyone agrees, every rational person agrees with michael
deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican...
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one that would reduce our deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade. which would stabilize our debt, and our deficit in a sustainable way for the next decade. that would be enough not only to stop the growth of our debt relative to the size of our economy, but it would make it manageable. so it doesn't crowd out the investments we need to make in people and education and job training and science and medical research, all the things that help us grow. step by step, we've made progress towards that goal. over the past two years i've signed into law about $1.4 trillion in spending cuts. two weeks ago i signed into law more than $600 billion in new revenue. by making sure the wealthiest americans begin to pay their fair share. when you add the money that we'll save in interest payments on the debt, all together that adds up to a total of about $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the past two years. not counting the $400 billion already saved from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. so we've made progress. we are moving towards our ultimate g
one that would reduce our deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade. which would stabilize our debt, and our deficit in a sustainable way for the next decade. that would be enough not only to stop the growth of our debt relative to the size of our economy, but it would make it manageable. so it doesn't crowd out the investments we need to make in people and education and job training and science and medical research, all the things that help us grow. step by step, we've made progress towards...
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he is going to have to talk about more deficit reduction. they will do a will little partying this weekend they real lives it's right back to work, bill. >> word of a solution to prevent the united states from defaultingen its debt. the house majority leader eric cantor saying that lawmakers will vote next week on a short-term plan to let the government borrow more money effectively raising the debt ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the spending cuts that house republicans had wanted. just released fox news poll finds that 69% favor raising the debt limit only if there are major spending cuts involved. and 23% say it's reckless not to raise it regardless. the poll also shows more than 8 in 10 think government spending is out of control. only 11% believes it's being managed carefully. mike immanuel tracking developments on the hill tonight. what's behind this house republican plan. >> bill, a lot of g.o.p. frustration has been based on the fact the senate has not passed a budget. so republi
he is going to have to talk about more deficit reduction. they will do a will little partying this weekend they real lives it's right back to work, bill. >> word of a solution to prevent the united states from defaultingen its debt. the house majority leader eric cantor saying that lawmakers will vote next week on a short-term plan to let the government borrow more money effectively raising the debt ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the...